WHAT??? are u saying it’s YOUR WORD?
duuuuuude i was the one who told you it… sra999999999999 nta!!!
WHAT??? are u saying it’s YOUR WORD?
duuuuuude i was the one who told you it… sra999999999999 nta!!!
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa3333 now i know how did turkey colonize all that arab countries :S
ur hilarious kurd :S
LOOOOOOL shutupppppp don’t start, we didn’t colonize ya3am, we became partners in leading, c tout
u know, even though u’re the one who’s lying, i let u keep the word for yourself, i don’t want it… :roll: i’ll make up my own one, a way better one…
blah blah blah … so why there were many ppl killed by turkey then if ur parteners as u said
hhhhhhhhhhh ill keep it coz it is mine … and u can use it ofcourse … im sure u suck at this game hhhh
what a load of *****
i’m sure u don’t even know where turkey is on the map and you’re claiming to know our history
i’m better than you in everything, so if u’re good at it that’s means i’m VERY good at it, and if you suck at it that means i’m still good at it… so you have no chance
hhhhhhhhhh thats a good way to skip u know that i know about turkey and its crimes against humanity … so dont provoke me
looooooooooolllllllllll i like how always u put ursefl in my place … ur a good fan of me hhhhhhh
aaawwwwaaaah crimes against humanity??? achmn humanity??? you talking about us??? dude you’re joking… tell me what we’ve done and i’ll see what you’re tripping on
LooooooooL that’s crazy coz i’m more fan of George Bush than i am of you
loolll duuuuuude just google it and c how many results ull get
hhh didnt know u like monkeys
effyou
MAD 1 lalla 0 :^^:
la mazal
i didn’t want to turn this converting to islam thread into a war zone… you already think we’re butchers anyway, don’t want to prove u right…
so im gonna be peaceful
dude notice that i didnt say YOU or lalla … i said turkey . we r all against some decisions our governments take or took . so dont take it as im blaming u … but yes im blaming u for denying all that truth :S
and ur right lets not ruin her thread
i’m not denying nothing, but if you’re talking about all that western rubbish that we’re being accused of & that can’t even be proved then i have the right to deny them… of course we had stupid leaders at times, for instance Ataturk ordered the killing of many kurds in the east because they rebelled against the forming of the Republic and the westernization of turkey… and i hate that guy for a lot of the stuff he did but Armenian genocide, Greek genocide, Assyrian genocide, Kurd genocide all these are bollocks, next even the South Africans will say that we mass slaughtered them
huh? killing many ppl is not a genocide or what ?
u c that ur talking with ur heart not ur brain … but i understand u its ur homeland
the thing is that it wasn’t directed at all kurds, if it was a genocide he would have only shot them down whereas he was attacking all the people who were opposing him, even many turks, some who worked with him for a long time and some sheikhs of turkish origin who didn’t like his ideas, he wiped them all out… so u see it’s nothing against a race in particular but against groups who didn’t want him.
and btw when i say “WE”, i’m mostly talking about my grandfathers the Ottomans, not that fascist drunkard. I don’t even like him or agree with him…
those that call them genocides, have an agenda, which is a whole diff topic on its own…
we cal sabra and shatila a genocide while israel didnt kill all the palestinian … so maybe we have a different ideas about the word genocide .
and about the ottomans and arabs … im not sure about what u said but i know that they tried to get in morocco and there were many wars between moroccans and ottomans … so finally they stayed in algeria.
i think a friend doent come to ur house with a gun
well there is a difference, and btw i am not defending this guy, i don’t give a crap about him, but what i’m saying is that there are too many misconceptions out there about us, coz turkey is the weak chicken and everybody is feeling free to accuse her of n’importe koi, and this is isn’t about competition but i hate when people have negativity towards my country because of what they hear without doing research… there are so many statistical evidence that has been found which proves that the number of victims that are shown by western records are so exaggerated as the number of those people living in Turkish lands were actually less than the number of dead that they claim, it’s quite funny…
It wasn’t all about acquiring more land, it’s about building the empire… we’re not talking about 2010, we’re talking about hundreds of years ago when people would ride on horses and explore new lands, & conquer them… did the Arabs go with lollipops and presents to Spain???
btw, compare the Palestine of the Ottoman time and the Palestine today?? if the Ottomans weren’t “friends” why would they value it’s protection so firmly… maybe u didn’t hear what Abdulhamid said about Palestine when the Jews came to him to bribe him with heaps of money for the land of Palestine.
so ur problem is the number not ppl who were killed without a judgement !!!
dont compare arabs in andalus with ottomans in egypte :S … the first aimed publishing the islam and the other aimed getting more slaves …
im not talkin about palestine … that was just an example about genocides … and ofcourse ottomans didnt give palestine since they refused giving even algeria … so its not Q of palestine … its just we r strongs we want more lands not less lands .
no, my problem is that the killing wasn’t directed at a particular race, coz if it was, then it would be a genocide or holocaust u name it, but it was directed at the rebels, whether innocent or not.
I wouldn’t waste my time arguing with someone who is so convinced that the aim was to get more slaves, that’s a load of crap… Maybe if you actually see what the Ottomans did with slaves it would be great This is just one source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_(Ottoman_Empire)
and i know u didn’t bring up Palestine in that sense but i just wanted to give an example, u keep saying that the Ottomans were interested in land and slaves, what was so valuable about Palestine for the Ottomans besides it being the Holy Lands that needs to be protected??? did we suck out the petrol from the lands or do extensive mining like the West did in parts of Africa and the Middle east?
And by the way, you’re free to think what you want about us, it doesn’t hurt me that we have another person thinking like that about the Ottomans
looll so it seems u like wikipedia lolll … check this out : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide
and ur wrong lalla , i dont hate ottomans for that … i dont even know them … and they r not the only ones to do that , but just dont deny it