what does gib l3az wla khaz mean?
Ouazzani is needed:
(I repeat too btw :$)
In the precedent chapters…
[quote][quote]jib l3az wlla kHazzzzzzzzzz
(Muslim)
Ana wld al-boughazzzzzzzzz
shuya ma3ghazzzz
kirshi butagazzzzzz ...
(Ouazzani)[/quote]
I can’t not translate in english exactly, so I will try to be closer:
jib l3az wlla kHazzzzzzzzzz
Give-me the honour/veneration (=glory?) or push you away /pousse-toi / get away
(muslim --> A tanjawi rap star (cheb Adil elMiloudi stoled some of his words, more or less this previous sentence)
Ana wld al-boughazzzzzzzzz
I am a sun of the Boughaz (the darija tanjawi name for the Strait of Gibraltar)
shuya ma3ghazzzz
A little bit lazy
Kirshi butagazzzzzzzzzz…
My stomach is a buta-gaz (a gaz bottle big and tqila used in Morocco)
(Ouazzani—> ME) big_smile
http://i37.tinypic.com/huhrfm.jpg
Butagaz
For the word l3azz, I had problems to understand it. My friends tried to translate it, and was very hard to understand. I understood that means “glory”. So, it’s a substantive. I looked in the dictionary and says something like this (I translate from spanish):
3azz --> 1 - To honorate, venerate (to somebody), to consider good (something). Ex: Allah y3azz la-Hkam (“may God consider good the sentences”), 3azz Allah el-malik (may good honorate the king)
2 - 3azz 3la: to make sad (somebody)
So, it consideres it a verb, and pick up some examples from ancien texts or native historys recorded by the author himself. But the meaning it’s exactly what the song it’s above and my friends told me.
Ok, I can not get better answer for 3azz[/quote]
thanks.
[quote=Gretchen][quote=nuwwara]@ Gretchen
So you say say there has to be somebody that made the electrons, protons and neutrons out of which our world and the universum is made. But were did your creator came from? If everything has to be created how come there is somebody/something or what ever out of nothing that is so powerful to create everthing there is?[/quote]
again I said and ready to say it again, we are not required to know how our Creator get this massive power and how He came from bacause we cant be compared by Him at all.
It’s so easy, and logic actually, when I find such smallest things like molecules and atoms and even insects to the biggest things like sky and ocean and mountains, to differnt things like human beings of different races and animals of differnt kinds and colors, to things we didnt see like ghosts and spirits (if u believe in them), to things that science itself can not explain, so I can accept it easily and believe in a founder and thus a Creator[/quote]
Well for me there is no logic in what you say. One the one hand you need to know where life comes from in all the details, but on the other hand you can accept not to know where your Creator is supposed to come from. Well a few hundred years ago there was not yet a scientific explanation where the lightning comes from, still that nobody had the explanation it was also then the electricity that made the lightning and no god.
No, I don’t believe in spirits, ghosts and so on.
Oh, oh, speaking of humans and different races. Well, I grew up in Germany so, I’m not comfortable with saying that people are different because their skin has a different colour.
Well actually in Biology 1+1 can be 3 (like father plus mother -> child) and in Chemistry 1+1 can be 1…
excuse me Nawwara
actually, I’m tired right now to read or argue huni
I’m sorry I’m not sure when I’m gonna read ur post, but just wanted to let you know this cause I myself dont like to be unanswered and thus like treating ppl the way i want to be treated
sorry again…
:o)
nooooooooooooooooo noooooooooo we stopped talkin in this thread 
nuwwara safi safi 3afak 
lets talk about Bastet , goddess of love and fertility
Nuwwara ! u like science, then listen to what a scientist has to say
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IspK651RpY[/youtube]
[quote=Madridista]lets talk about science since atheists like it so much … :
In mathematics there is a theory known as ‘Theory of Probability’. If you have two options, out of which one is right, and one is wrong, the chances that you will chose the right one is half, i.e. one out of the two will be correct. You have 50% chances of being correct. Similarly if you toss a coin the chances that your guess will be correct is 50% (1 out of 2) i.e. 1/2.
Let us apply this theory of probability to the Qur’an, and assume that a person has guessed all the information that is mentioned in the Qur’an which was unknown at that time. Let us discuss the probability of all the guesses being simultaneously correct.
At the time when the Qur’an was revealed, people thought the world was flat, there are several other options for the shape of the earth. It could be triangular, it could be quadrangular, pentagonal, hexagonal, heptagonal, octagonal, spherical, etc. Lets assume there are about 30 different options for the shape of the earth. The Qur’an rightly says it is spherical, if it was a guess the chances of the guess being correct is 1/30.
The light of the moon can be its own light or a reflected light. The Qur’an rightly says it is a reflected light. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/2 and the probability that both the guesses i.e the earth is spherical and the light of the moon is reflected light is 1/30 x 1/2 = 1/60.
Further, the Qur’an also mentions every living thing is made of water. Every living thing can be made up of either wood, stone, copper, aluminum, steel, silver, gold, oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, oil, water, cement, concrete, etc. The options are say about 10,000. The Qur’an rightly says that everything is made up of water. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/10,000 and the probability of all the three guesses i.e. the earth is spherical, light of moon is reflected light and everything is created from water being correct is 1/30 x 1/2 x 1/10,000 = 1/60,000 which is equal to about .0017%.
The Qur’an speaks about hundreds of things that were not known to men at the time of its revelation. Only in three options the result is .0017%. I leave it upto you, to work out the probability if all the hundreds of the unknown facts were guesses, the chances of all of them being correct guesses simultaneously and there being not a single wrong guess. It is beyond human capacity to make all correct guesses without a single mistake.
which itself is sufficient to prove to a logical person that the origin of the Qur’an is Divine.[/quote]
Well and what is with all the times religion was wrong? I think it wasn’t till the 1960s that the Vatican excepted that actually the earth is moving around the sun…
You can’t just pick the raisins (as we say in German…).
hahahahhahaha duuude that was the vatican … im talkin about Quran … find me one mistake in this book and i’ll take u as a God
don’t be silly , of course i don’t mean your direct grandfather 
…& i have pretty idea what evolution is :albert: , & that’s why it makes no sense.
the way you’re talking about the sky & the oceans & how they’re formed, that’s only what the eye sees. in other words, that’s what the mind tells. u gotta give your heart a chance. the mind & the heart are always working together, one completes another. they shouldn’t be seperated in such matter.
u’ll always go back to the same question: “where does this thing come from ?” like the ocean (water) is hydrogene & oxygene, ok, where do the ox & Hyd come from ?
u’d say that there’s no explanation yet, well…that’s because the mind abilities are limited, here comes the role of the heart,God gives the answer ready & easy: he created everything.
why should we reject it ? keep in mind that what comes in religious books revealed facts about the universe that science only revealed in recent years. so where do those “false” prophets get that ! if it’s not from God.[/quote]
My heart is there to keep me alive by pumping blood through my body.
It’s not me who came to where thing do come from, that was the discussion.
Well, religion at some times forbid people to practice science, if it could reveal that religion isn’t right. And there where also people executed because they had the proof that here and there religion is wrong. Imagine where science would be, if there wouldn’t have been those restrictions. And I don’t know to what facts about the universe you are referring.
[quote=Gretchen]excuse me Nawwara
actually, I’m tired right now to read or argue huni
I’m sorry I’m not sure when I’m gonna read ur post, but just wanted to let you know this cause I myself dont like to be unanswered and thus like treating ppl the way i want to be treated
sorry again…
:o)[/quote]
No problem at all. I was just busy the last week.
[quote=Madridista]nooooooooooooooooo noooooooooo we stopped talkin in this thread
nuwwara safi safi 3afak lets talk about Bastet , goddess of love and fertility :p[/quote]
nobody is forcing you to read here.
I’m no dude…
Oh, there are many mistakes in the Qur’an, too. I’ve only Arabic versions and German translations and home and I still didn’t do my homework so give me some time to look up a good example.
take as long as u want … but plz pay attention to some websites … i want mistakes from the quran
that means u’ll need to gimme the source
and about dude , sorry i use dude for both girls n boys
[quote=Paperbird]Nuwwara ! u like science, then listen to what a scientist has to say
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IspK651RpY[/youtube][/quote]
Well, can say I like science, but that doesn’t mean I like scientist. And that’s no science he has done in that video, thats religious propaganda… And I have read parts of the Qur’an (even in Arabic) and still I’m not at all convinced. I also doesn’t say at all what kind of scientist he is. In stead of studying science at university I choose Oriental Studies, so you can say I studyied Islam. So he is a scientist who doesn’t believe in science and I’m an orientalist who doesn’t believe in Islam, doesn’t prove anything.
[quote=Madridista]take as long as u want … but plz pay attention to some websites … i want mistakes from the quran
that means u’ll need to gimme the source
and about dude , sorry i use dude for both girls n boys[/quote]
I wasn’t planning on using the internet.
Ok, I just wanted to put also somewhere that I’m female as I read in this thread his/her referring to me…
He’s a scientist who was athiest like you. & he’s older & have more experience.
he knows what he’s saying.
you on the other hand, think that the heart is a mean to let u live by pumping blood in & out ! so…
you’re refusing any chance to develope your ideas.
science is not 100% right, still till nowadays scientists figure out about horrible mistake in some theories, including the evolution. sicence is up & down all the time like shares market…untrustworthy…
in another meaning, & briefly : if your mind accepts what scienists tell you about evolution, then it must accept what prophets tell u about religion.
you’re refusing the fact that religion is man-made & it cause people to die, well…it’s the same for science. it’s man-made & causes people to die.
if u sau religion has no proof, well…nor science does !
He just says he read the Qur’an and from one minute to the other started believing. That’s no science and no prove that he is right. But still I hope he is happy now.
I was Christian and believing, but than I started to think and to doubt.
You’re mixing different parts of science. On the one hand you have the, let’s call it “hard science”, the part of science that has been proven by some kind of experiment. And than there is the weak or theoretical part of science that yet has to be proven as right or wrong, that are just theories that might help to understand the world, but as those theories can be wrong could also mislead.
No I don’t believe blind anything some scientist say. Scientist are just humans, and like anybody else they can be wrong and do mistakes (errare humanum est ‘to err is human’). No scientist can just say that’s how the world works, he or she has to have some kind of prove and by that prove you (or anybody else) can check if its right. Religion doesn’t have any proves. Go to any mental institution you will find people who say they are prophets, well I don’t believe they are. What would have happened if there were mental institutions in Jesus’ or Muhammad’s time…
No, I’m saying religion is man-made and of cause science is man-made. The difference is religion has no proof and it’s just somebody said… And science has proves or is looking for the proof and is looking for rules.
Oh, there are proves that Evolution is right.