You often hear people say when they first learn Moroccan Arabic: Oh, Darija is too fast for me. I have the same impression of other foreign languages that I don’t speak, if you see what I mean.
So my questions are:
Do you find Darija fast-paced? Does this impression fade away as you learn more Moroccan Arabic?
Honestly speaking darija IS fast, and i find that many of the words are not pronounced as they are written, what i mean by this is darija speakers (when compared to other arabic speakers) swallow many of the letters in a word when conversing… a long sentence can be articulated in a nanosecond in darija, ok ok ok not a nanosecond but you get the point, you people speak soooo fast.
Although it’s quite hard to catch up with, i find that as i learn more and more darija i am quite getting used to the speed and am now beginning to understand what i hear… watching interviews and darija videos helps a LOOOOOOOOT… i think for any language, being immersed into the language is the best way to absorb it most effectively & be able to follow the flow
Definitely agree with Aicha Most words are said pretty fast with half the letters not said e.g “dajaaj becomes jaaj” etc but I dont think thats my main issue, I mean other dialects like the Egyptian dialect is REALLY fast but I can sorta understand it whereas with darja its ok paced but I dont understand half of what is being said :blink:. With Darja u have to be around ppl who speak it and then u get used to the pace and just concerntrate on what is actually being said
I’ve been said by someone Moroccan that Daija seems difficult because it’s spoken fast. But you know what, I was surprised at first when I read that Masri is too fast, but I think you’re right…
The difficulty in Darija I think lies in the Berber pronunciation of the words. I’ve read in wikipedia that Darija is Arabic pronounced with a Berber accent.
I, personally, see it fast, but I think it’s the case with many languages, any language, I mean listen to a native English or French speaker in a common talk you’ll find them talk fast. Likewise with a Moroccan or Egyptian native speaker…
Ok, I completely agree.
1 . Is fast (but also english, french, etc… speaks fast)
2 . No vowels on it. This i find it really hard.
3 . No known rules by the speakers, no standards widely spreads (more than dialects in darija, there are idiolects, that is: everybody/family has his own language, so communication is really hard)
4 . No feed-back. A darija speaker is not used to help others to understand, because there are no darija learners. Really, do you think here in Morocco people study darija? No way, we are a few, a really little bunch. So native speakers they have no tools to help you (but they try sooooooo hard… I love them!).
looolll ouazzani i agree with u , ive been told many times that we r specials
(btw have u ever tried to understand a Gitano talkin spanish )
Yeah! Completely right.
I had a close relationship with some gipsy comunities, and I can tell you they speak a bizarre spanish. Not easy to understand for spaniards. We -spanish speakers- us to make fun on radio or television about their way to express themselves, in a gentle way usually (otherways they would come, kill you and hang you with your own intestines… ).
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hope there is no gypsy here